Ruské komunity, komunita Vissarion na Sibiři

[neon]

Velice me zaujala tato komunita Vissarion, stranky maji prevazne v nemcine, coz zatim nechapu proc, odkud se ti lidi vzali.
Ale maji 3000 komunitu na Sibiri.

Jeden web je i v anglictine:
https://vissarion.eu/en/

Maji dost videa, ktere se da obrazove vnimat i bez znalosti jazyka:
https://www.youtube.com/user/boggybg

V nemcine je web tady:
https://www.wissarion.info/

A kdo vladne anglicky, tak tento popis komunity zni trochu jak raj:

Apples , water and honey melons , tomatoes , soyabeans , rye and many other crops are cultivated . There has already been success in cultivating avocados , oranges and bananas in a greenhouse . The complete withdrawal from the money system is our objective .

As children of the sole God and of the Mother Earth , we live in a big family and thus have no financial relationships among ourselves . Everyone seeks out and learn his or her favourite arts and crafts . You invest all your love and warmth into each product and give it selflessly to the person who in your opinion needs it , without expecting anything in return ( no bartering ) . You receive all you need to live from others as well . This already functioning in the community . There is also communal farming , and houses , schools , temples are built in common .

We are rising our children to treat each other lovingly and to view everything in nature as alive . We promote their artistic creativity and imagination so that the children will learn to feel joy in creating beauty . In the schools we teach among other things : arts and crafts , dance , the history of culture instead of history of war .

The most important thing for us is spiritual development , meaning the conscious at tempt never to harbour negative feelings towards other but instead to give the warmth of one’s soul without measure . Our works of art , pictures , songs and fairy tales should also call forth only bright feelings . In our meetings we attempt to discuss all – even the smallest – misunderstanding among us in open and loving way . This at once the hardest and the most important part of a harmonious existence together .

Jejich poloha je ECOPOLIS TIBERKUL 1992 – 100km2 – near Abakan / south Siberia – Russia

Otazka pro me zni: vite o tom neco? Nebo je to tady davno zname?

Je zde prosim nekdo, kdo by mohl podat informace z nejake jine komunity?

Zije zde nekdo v nejake? Byl nekdo v nejake? Co to Rusko? Nekdo z Anastasiovcu se tam vydaval, ze? Mate na nej kontakt prosim?
Zaujal vas ten Vissarion nejak?

Dekuji 😉

[neon]

Kdyz vidite ty fotky, tak je to nadhera 🙂
https://www.oekopolis.info/interview2.htm

[neon]

Tak po shlednuti interview s jejich lidrem Wissarionem.. tam rika napr. toto:

Na otazku, jestli lidi maji sanci duchovne pokrocit kdekoli jsou a nebo by meli jit do jejich sibirske komunity?
Tak prej je dulezite splnit si ukol, ktery kde maji, ale v jejich komunite proste rychlej postoupi.
Napadal tam mesto jako nemozne v nem vubec duchovne vyrust, protoze si clovek ani neuvedomuje, jak je tam vse od zakladu spatne.
Je v tom, a ani nema moznost se nad sebe podivat a pochopit.
U nich v komunite, v jakemkoli takovem prostoru mu to dojde.

Pak mluvil o tom, ze spousta lidi keca, ale nedelaji prakticke kroky.
A popisoval tam velice hezky to, ze clovek by nemel pouzivat zadne slozite stroje na vyrobu veci.
Oni tam vse delaji rucne, za pomoci zakladnich nastroju.
Prej je to nase duchovni podstata, tvorit rukama, uplny zaklad cloveka.
Da do hmoty, se kterou pracuje svou dusi.
V prvni rade musi mit radostnou, veselici se dusi a s tou pristoupit k praci, k vyrobe neceho, co lide bezne potrebuji a prej mame dar od boha tento otisk duse predavat ve hmote – kdyz se dotykame rukama hmoty, tak ji prej na nejake urovni menime – cim silnejsi ma clovek vyzarovani, tim vice je hmota ovlivnena a nese si tak poselstvi.
Prej cela nynejsi civilizace se utapi v nestesti, protoze prestali vyrabet zakladni veci vlastnima rukama – zacali pouzivat stroje a managovat vyrobu, proste se prestali sami, kazdy podilet na vyrobe veci.
Ze prej nase cloveci zakladni podstata je byt Stvoritel, po vzoru Boha.
A naplni nas radosti to, ze nekomu neco, co jsme stvorili dame.. jen tak, bez penez, klidne tajne, pred dvere domu, ani nemusi vedet, kdo mu to dal.
No a prave proto, ze netvorime, nerozvyjime ruce, tak nam prej prerostlo pouzivani reci, snazime se ziskat si tu energii, to stesti mluvenim.. presvedcovanim druhych.. pak z toho vznikaji hadky, argumenty, valky.

O vychove deti rikal, ze je to zase zacarovany kruh. V prvni rade musi rodice zmenit kompletne sebe.
Od zakladu a to se prej tezko dela tam kde jsou.. ve meste, v konzumni spolecnosti, s nedobrym zamestnanim.
Je prej uplne jedno jak pak lidi v takovem meste dite vedou slovne, kdyz mu nejdou prikladem.
Ono musi citit, ze rodic zije ve stesti, tvori s timto stestim nejake vyrobky potrebne pro druhe, je proste kreativni.
Jakmile to vidi, tak neni potreba zadne velke vychovy… vse se deje tak nejak samo.. ale urcita kazen u deti byt musi.

Tolik Wissarion.

Me se ta jejich komunitka zamlouva, v necem takovem bych rad zil, radsi nez takto jak ziju. Ale to jak jim visi na obrazech Wissarion, uctivaji ho jako gurua, to me vadi nejvic. Proc nemuze sakrys existovat komunita bez gurua 🙁 Ja mam vnitrni odpor k nekomu vzhlizet. Prijde mi to, ze to neni normalni, prirozene, abych si psychologicky udelal z nekoho modlu.
Toz jen tak.

Pro me je to ale samozrejme dal velice zajimave – 3000 lidi fungujich na necem, co cteme v Anastasii, nebo vidime v Nadherne Zelene.

[verane]

Jak jste se ptal na cestu do Ruska, tak jsem narazila na toto:
https://www.slideshare.net/michalmartoch/pribehy-z-rodove-cesty-2011-bl-verze-strana-165
Děkuji za nové informace.

[Návštěvník]

Komunita a obrazky jsou sice nadherne, ale od toho gurua bych se odstřihla…to vubec přece neni v duchu knih Zvonici cedry Ruska 😮 , žádné guruy nepotřebujeme, bacha…, ale spiš sekta, jako když vyšije, raději bych se tu o ní ani raději nezmiňovala, aby jen “otírání” se o ní nezdiskreditovalo tyto stránky anastasia.cz. Píšou o ní i v angličtině zde: https://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/12/16/the-vissarion-christ-inside-russia-s-end-times-cults.html
Věra

@neon wrote:

Velice me zaujala tato komunita Vissarion, stranky maji prevazne v nemcine, coz zatim nechapu proc, odkud se ti lidi vzali.
Ale maji 3000 komunitu na Sibiri.

Jeden web je i v anglictine:
https://vissarion.eu/en/

Maji dost videa, ktere se da obrazove vnimat i bez znalosti jazyka:
https://www.youtube.com/user/boggybg

V nemcine je web tady:
https://www.wissarion.info/

A kdo vladne anglicky, tak tento popis komunity zni trochu jak raj:

Apples , water and honey melons , tomatoes , soyabeans , rye and many other crops are cultivated . There has already been success in cultivating avocados , oranges and bananas in a greenhouse . The complete withdrawal from the money system is our objective .

As children of the sole God and of the Mother Earth , we live in a big family and thus have no financial relationships among ourselves . Everyone seeks out and learn his or her favourite arts and crafts . You invest all your love and warmth into each product and give it selflessly to the person who in your opinion needs it , without expecting anything in return ( no bartering ) . You receive all you need to live from others as well . This already functioning in the community . There is also communal farming , and houses , schools , temples are built in common .

We are rising our children to treat each other lovingly and to view everything in nature as alive . We promote their artistic creativity and imagination so that the children will learn to feel joy in creating beauty . In the schools we teach among other things : arts and crafts , dance , the history of culture instead of history of war .

The most important thing for us is spiritual development , meaning the conscious at tempt never to harbour negative feelings towards other but instead to give the warmth of one’s soul without measure . Our works of art , pictures , songs and fairy tales should also call forth only bright feelings . In our meetings we attempt to discuss all – even the smallest – misunderstanding among us in open and loving way . This at once the hardest and the most important part of a harmonious existence together .

Jejich poloha je ECOPOLIS TIBERKUL 1992 – 100km2 – near Abakan / south Siberia – Russia

Otazka pro me zni: vite o tom neco? Nebo je to tady davno zname?

Je zde prosim nekdo, kdo by mohl podat informace z nejake jine komunity?

Zije zde nekdo v nejake? Byl nekdo v nejake? Co to Rusko? Nekdo z Anastasiovcu se tam vydaval, ze? Mate na nej kontakt prosim?
Zaujal vas ten Vissarion nejak?

Dekuji 😉

[Návštěvník]

Mluvíš mi z duše. Upřímně řečeno já se na tu jejich komunitu vlastně ani moc nedívala, protože uvodní obrázek toho pána a jeho uvodní věta mě odradily.

Ráda bych si s tebou popovídala na to téma jestli chceš. [email protected]

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